The Difference Between Phenomenal and Meta Consciousness

​​Bernardo Kastrup joins Rupert for a follow-up conversation, with Simon Mundie moderating.

This conversation covers several complex topics. It is a deep dive into matters such as the sharing of our being, how to love those who are causing pain and war, infinite consciousness’s experience of itself, and much more.

Bernardo has two PhDs, one in computer science and another in philosophy. He was employed first at CERN, the European council for nuclear research, where he began working in artificial intelligence (AI) in connection with the Large Hadron Collider. Then he moved on to artificial consciousness (AC), wondering if which inspired him to ponder whether he could build an artificially conscious entity and piqued his interest in philosophy.

Simon Mundie is the host of the podcast Life Lessons: From Sport and Beyond, which explores life’s bigger questions.