The Evolution of Turbo Gears

The idea was the original idea was, hey, look, here's a really cool templating engine. And over here is some sort of HTTP processing library. And here's a great little web server. And if we just stitch these together into a package and kind of wire them together, hey, we have a web framework, right? Yeah, practically the core idea was that one. So they got, I think, created at the same time where not much was available around.