You used to work personally on crypto investigations out gards and silk d the welcome to video case that wired recently ran a book excerpt about. What lessons have you learned in making the transition from being a coder cobbled together a tool on a trans atlantic flight, as i understand, to being a ceo? Like, how does that roll shift a leader? I think my career, before getting into gripto, in various ways, have always been a mixture of getting deep in technology, and then when you get deep in technology,. You create something, and then you need to move into basically becoming an operator and a management ar all wayse like ben between those two areas

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