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What’s up, Rock Nation! Today we sit down with none other than Gary Vee – the king of content, CEO of Vayner Media - a $365M agency, and one of the most iconic voices in the creator economy.

In this episode, Gary breaks down exactly how to win on social media in 2025 - from why organic content is the lifeblood of any brand, to how creators should think about attention, brand vs sales, and why most people are one piece of content away from changing their life.

He also shares how he scaled VaynerMedia from nothing, why content volume beats perfection, and how humility became his greatest superpower in business. We go deep on platform strategy, AI influencers, creating at scale, and why 22 to 30 is your time to go all in on your dream.

If you’re a creator, entrepreneur, or marketer trying to dominate attention in today’s world - this is the blueprint..

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Timestamps:

0:00 - Intro

1:02 - What 90% of brands get wrong about Social Media

2:31 - Do you understand each platform?

4:26 - Organic Social is life

6:10 - The TikTokification of content

7:03 - You are the niche

9:07 - Gary Vee vs Alex Hormozi

10:07 - “I’ve never had to make my money from my audience”

11:26 - The early days of Vayner

12:58 - Gary’s Ah-Ha moment

14:59 - Artlist

15:41 - Gary’s pitch to brands for Vayner

18:23 - Interest Graph vs. Social Graph

20:03 - Sawdust Content Theory

21:35 - Gary’s warning to fortune 500 brands

23:19 - How Gary’s pitch has changed

24:33 - Post Creative Strategy

25:23 - How we connected with Gary

27:17 - Gary’s won the lottery twice

29:23 - Macro patients, micro speed

30:53 - Don’t be a dick

32:20 - How to really grow something big

33:42 - Hiring A players vs. B/C players

35:14 - Hydrant

36:01 - You’re leaving brand on the table

36:44 - Gary’s thoughts on Meta’s A.I. strategy

38:58 - How Gary is defending against A.I.

40:22 - How Gary won business early on with Vayner

41:25 - Gary’s current social strategy

43:25 - Gary’s advice to college graduates

46:55 - Going back to being Gary Vee

48:31 - A.I. influencers

50:17 - Gary’s mindset 25 years ago

54:28 - Gary’s has his own slang

56:22 - What platforms you should spend the most attention on

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