I Was a Lumening. What Did It Show You?

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"I think it's just some the the chemicals that were going on in my brain seem to put this sort of mindset and this kind of hallucinogenic experience. I mean, I've I was a lumining," he says. "The whole point was like taking that drug was almost like a portal back into like a little reminder, like them being able to like kind of tether a message."

John Heers is the Co-Founder and Director of the First Things Foundation, and the host of the podcast, Why Are We Talking About Rabbits?

The First Things Foundation is a non-profit organization that takes young people from the “new world” of the West to the “old world” of developing countries where they immerse, learn the language, and connect with local entrepreneurs and helps empower them to spur organic, ground-up development in their communities. They have active projects in Guatemala, Sierra Leone, the Georgia Republic, Ethiopia, and Appalachia near and dear to me here in the Rust Belt of the United States.

John has a Master's Degree in History from Columbia University. Previous to First Things Foundation, John worked overseas serving the Peace Corps as a water resource manager in Mali, oversaw emergency relief in the Georgian Republic, and taught history for 9 years in South Bronx and Harlem in New York City and Haiti.

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