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Xenophobia and the State
"You just can't do what we did anymore. You can't show up at a place and just get away with kind of like sneaking in, hanging out with people," he says. "If you see any media come out of China, it is from the state. This is not." He adds: "I see state media right now trying to emulate a lot of experiences that we have by bringing their shills to the same place as we need to discuss"