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Bret Speaks with Vivek Ramaswamy on the Darkhorse Podcast
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The Lull in American Nationalism
"I could have said patriotism or patriot, I said it because I'm a patron," he says. "It's not just that it includes its very essence is a conviction around the ideals that define this country." He adds: "We we're in this hypnotized aimless passage of time in our country thinking ... We need to be waking up out of it now"
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