Introduction

Calem: This is a conversation that i had with john mc Warter of columbia university, linguist, and glenlowry of brown university. Both are men who have done a great deal within their field, and have written many books and journal articles. John is a contributor to h new york times now, where he writes a regular column there that is always worth reading. Glen is one of the most successful a sub stack publishers these days, where he not only writes, but also produces regular podcast interviews. Calem: In our most recent conversation, i was delighted to be able to talk with john and glen about where things currently stand in America's national conversation