i have a very extreme view of the nature of races in the united states. When you're friends with each other, we interrupt each other. And when we hang out an aspin, i'm sure you interrupted me at some point. I'nsure interrupt you ats some point. That's the nature of being friends. But if you superimpose upon that a kind of fake, superficial way of speaking to each other by virtue of skin color, that you actually make that kind of deep friendship cultivation impossible. You're not really dialoguing with vulnerability in the present moment. It just made me think, speaking of projection, that romdy andre does not appear to have any

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