Is There Growth in on Premises?

On prem servers tend to live behind fire walls, you'd hope true. On the cloud side is really that, ah, there is no hardware. It's hardware as soft ware written on top of a platform. A lot of skills that a, d, b, a have transition beautifully to the cloud. There are segments of the d b a job that, as some who were production debe for years, e're absolutely awful.