I don't think that it's a who cares if there are toxic women. That's what, that's sort of the distinction I was trying to make. The APA American Psychological Association guidelines on men refer to our discussion in a couple of places. Second, I'm very grateful to Michael for bringing up my book,. which he read and, and put a, uh, said some really nice things about in the discussion. And then they discussed pulp fiction. Oh, we, we, oh, damn it. Goddamn it.

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