Jacinda Ardern: leading with empathy

Sarah Ferguson's interviews illuminate the biggest issues of our times and reveal insights from the most interesting people in public life.

How did she stop US ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee from "flooding the zone" when grilling him on US support for Israel's war in Gaza? What did she learn about compassion in politics when speaking with New Zealand's former Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern? 

This week, Sam Hawley is joined by ABC presenters and journalists to discuss their best stories and interviews from 2025.

Today, Sarah Ferguson, host of ABC's 7.30 program, shares her insights from her big name interviews.