People on one side of the spectrum here will claim that maybe forty five people died in this nan king thing, and those may have been justified. On the far opposite end of the scale and the spectrum, you have chinese historians who've actually carved a number, their number, into a rock. It's a little like, you know, proverbially carving it into stone. I guess that is what they're doing. And the attempt is to create, it's pretty clear, a number that has the same sort of intellectual resonance with the global population that the six million number has for the holocast. But now, on that scale are a bunch of different gradients of peoples and