"I feel like we were on two different themes in a way around success one is This notion of kind of learning from failure or success And then the feeling you might have in that process, right? You know, I mean I think we all can identify with some of those things," he says. "The core of where a Draw a sense worth is actually Kind of detached from the things that I'm doing and I think that's very helpful to me most important thing is that I have been loved by an incredible being."