There's like this huge commonality among among governors, irrespective of what your ideology or your party is. And some of the most meaningful conversations i've had about some of the toughest issues that we deal with have come in gatherings of eight or nine or six or seven or ten or 12. There's really nobody else who's sitting in the same chair, right? So it's a tremendous opportunity to talk to somebody who lies awake thinking about the same things you're thinking about. It was just like a therapy sesson and governors would get on there and just talk about what was up and what was going on in their states.

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