The Power of Pushing Past My Circumstances

I was working at a church, 25,000 strong. It went from 25,000 down to 3,000 one year after the church scandal. And I thought I was going to leave the faith. But when you're leading through the fire and you go through bad record deals and you deal with abandon all you just, you got to grow up fast. So what have been some principles for you or some steps that you took that helped you? That was definitely the K-Sam.