Most people are bad listeners. They just don't hear it, they're preoccupied. It doesn't mean you're never going to succeed at this. Some of the most powerful moments that we've had inside of our relationship have essentially happened because one of us agreed to a thing and then the thing still kind of wasn't really happening for whatever reason. You got to take that extra little B with them or that actual little step. Like really, are you okay with this new way of being together? Are you really going to do this consistently?"

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