Kate Bowler on Shame, Productivity, and Living with Chronic Pain
Death, Sex & Money
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Is It Rest?
"I'm emotional all the time about stuff that I guess I'm so sad," Kate Bolar says. "But like, I still cry with a plane land ... because I didn't think I'd get to take another trip and I'm positive about it." She's no longer reliable at family dinners because she can write it after the prayer of 'Okay, excuse myself to go to the bathroom'
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