Intro

Today, we’re bringing you a special highlights episode! It’s a roundup of some of the most interesting conversations we had in 2025. They include:

• Vicky Bond (Madre Brava) on what it's really like to lead in animal advocacy 
• Lewis Bollard (Coefficient Giving) on the strategies that win and traps to avoid 
• Dawn Neo (Global Food Partners) on the 4+ billion hens in cages in Asia and how we can help them
• David Cole (author of Engines of Liberty) on what we can learn from the marriage equality and gun rights movements 
• Carley Betts (Open Wing Alliance), 50th episode special: 5 leaders on key challenges and opportunities
• David Coman-Hidy (The Navigation Fund), 50th episode special: 5 leaders on key challenges and opportunities
• Karolina Sarek (EA Animal Welfare Fund), 50th episode special: 5 leaders on key challenges and opportunities
• Haven King-Nobles (Fish Welfare Initiative) on why high agency is critical for entrepreneurship 
• Penny Tehlilah (Animal Activism Collective) on uniting "welfarists" and "abolitionists" through pressure campaigns
• David Kay (now at Kraft Heinz) on the emerging cultivated meat industry 

Chapters:

• (00:00:00) Cold Open
• (00:01:55) Lewis Bollard on what advocates commonly get wrong.
• (00:05:34) Vicky Bond on overcoming self-limiting beliefs and imposter syndrome 
• (00:09:07) Haven King Nobles on how to help new projects succeed and supporting new founders
• (00:15:48) Penimah Tehilah on how pressure campaigns can unite the movement. 
• (00:29:37) David Kay on the importance of centering animals in our advocacy. 
• (00:33:34) Dawn Neo on changing informal markets and production in low income countries
• (00:36:00) David Cole on the importance of incrementalism in past social movements
• (00:52:25) Carley Betts on moving past good cop and bad cop binaries in campaigning 
• (00:57:17) David Coman-Hidy on the importance of political advocacy
• (01:01:19) Karolina Sarek on progress for shrimps 

For those who miss Amy as a co-host, you’ll be very happy to know that a bunch of these snippets include her too.

Hope you enjoy the episode! 

With thanks to Tom Felbar (Ambedo Media) for amazing video and audio editing!

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