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010 - Managing Change to Build Unity & Stay On Mission with Karl Vaters

Good Ideas For Churches

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How to Grow in Difficult Seasons

Wel, just cut this part. I wonder if, in god's providence, you said you all you had was the capacity really ti just worship, and can it be with people? And had you not been needing a place to sort of retreat to yourself a little bit, that maybe you would have pushed too quick as well, like the other guys did. Always through the difficult seasons more than through the mountain top seasons that i learn the greatest lessons of faith. Retreats are good, i've been on them. But if you really want to get close to the lord, no, ask him to challenge you. Ask him to stretch you, and he'll give you some

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