After the publication of newspaper black out, you kept working at your day job. And I believe at that point you were selling ad space internet ad space. Now what was your job back now? What happened was so when I did newspaperBlackOut, I was Simply doing web design at the law school. Then after newspaperblackout came out, a buddy in advertising said, you should think about being a copywriter. So I got a job at this marketing agency downtown that did digital marketing called Springbox. That job, I didn't do very long, only like a year and a half. Because what happened was that's when I got invited to give the steal like an artist talk,