In the beginning of the universe, before anything was created, in the deep darkness of the waters, what moved, what vibrated without motion. And that ancient one, worthless one, perhaps he knows, perhaps even he does not know. So I've heard that all sages, the divine sage Narada, Asita, Devala, Vyasa, and they have all said this, and you two are telling me this too. Anybody else have a question? We'll come to that. 13th verse, let's read that. Swam Chiva Brabhishimi.