Macron's Comments on the Ocus Deal

France has the largest, easy in what we call the end of Pacific, right? And well, yeah, it's the second largest maritime domain. Of course, which implies a strong military presence and naval presence because you need to defend that area. We know that this domain in the Indo-Pacific is the main area of expansion of China and France is in the front lines of that. The Ocus deal two years ago in September 2021 was so painful because France had been working with Australia precisely in reinforcing the containment,. if you'd like, of Chinese vessels.