R, are you no properties and relations? Do they have existence? A, well, yoman answers, yes, if they exist independent of our minds. And then what about agaist? The obvious next question there is, what about things that are not nouns? Ok. So i'm going to describe myself as having gone through two phases,. ok. For a very long time, up until some point in two thousand 17, i was what you might call a hobseyan nominalist, after thomas hobbs. There is also the way objects are, but those aren't things. Those don't exist. You see what i'm saying? Yes, i do.

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