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Joe De Sena: Unbreakable Humans

The Happy Pear Podcast

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I Love Fire, Ready, Aim

Sally Kohn: For anyone listening here who's kind of struggling to get started, I've often heard you talk about three things that people can do to kind of get going. You're clearly someone who learns by doing. Many people learn by thinking and looking around it. So just a big believer in just starting and forcing and nudging and figuring it the fuck out on the way.

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