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Siri Hustvedt and Lisa Appignanesi

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The Politics of Shame

I think it's the politics of shame. People don't like to use that because people say anger. So I think this really is a story of angry white men and the women who identify with them. Black people did not vote for Donald Trump. Asian people did notVote for DonaldTrump. Urban people did not voted for Donald Trump, right? There's anger. But what is the root? What is the fastest root out of shame is anger. And we have to stop that idea, that it's white working-class men who are the people. Same thing happened here with Brexit. Yes. Then everyone goes out and why is that? As he said, the journalists writing about this

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