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In the second episode, host Julia Furlan talks with author and CEO Minda Harts about how to fight for equality in the workplace. Harts’s work has focused on empowering people, particularly women of color, to find their voice and secure a seat at the table. Julia and Minda discuss the failures of "Lean In" to meaningfully address these issues, how to overcome common workplace obstacles and stereotypes, and how to achieve success through enrolling your coworkers and colleagues in the project of creating a truly equitable and respectful workplace.

Host: Julia Furlan (@juliastmi)

Guest: Minda Harts (@MindaHarts), author; founder and CEO of The Memo

References: 

• You Are More Than Magic: The Black and Brown Girls' Guide to Finding Your Voice by Minda Harts 
• The Memo: What Women of Color Need to Know to Secure a Seat at the Table by Minda Harts
• Lean In: Women, Work, and the Will to Lead by Sheryl Sandberg
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This episode was made by: 

Producer: Erikk Geannikis

Editor: Amy Drozdowska

Engineer: Patrick Boyd

Deputy Editorial Director, Vox Talk: Amber Hall

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