I don't think there's any argument that saying everybody should have a right to an attorney right was intended to improve things and so prima facie the not only lack of improvement but like the clear opposite trends. The ultimate end was for them to be treated less unjustly by the system and in fact the opposite of have as happened so having a lawyer is small consolation. And let me just give an example of an example that was sort of striking from serials. They had a case of a public defender and it was a totally trumped up charge. It was somebody who had a cop by accident.

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