Exploring Metafictionality in Games with Kieron Gillen

Are games even real? According to Kieron Gillen, they certainly bleed into reality and reality bleeds into them. According to Great Western Trail, New Zealand isn’t even real. So who’s to say? On this episode of Talk Cardboard we review Schadenfreude, the little trick taking game that could, chat about the absurd comedy that is Freelancers, take an early peak at Great Western Trail: New Zealand and chat to Kieron Gillen about his comic book and role-playing game DIE. For more on DIE, here’s the links provided at the end of the interview in clickable form: Kieron’s Newsletter - https://buttondown.email/KieronGillen DIE RPG - https://diecomic.com/rpg/ Rowan, Rook and Decard - https://rowanrookanddecard.com/ If you’d like to check out our bonus episodes - become a patreon supporter on https://patreon.com/nopunincluded On to the timestamps: 00:59 Intro and Audience Correspondence - Review copies 6:32 Schadenfreude 19:31 Freelancers: A Crossroads Game 37:07 Audience Correspondence - Dinged up Cards 39:56 Interview: Kieron Gillen and DIE 1:07:53 Great Western Trail: New Zealand