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Katy Perry
The Zane Lowe Interview Series
The Evolution of Ambition and the Role of Pain
The chapter explores the speaker's ambition, drive, and thirst for success, as well as the role of talent and creativity in achieving their goals. They discuss how in their younger years, proving people wrong and using pain as inspiration helped them create music. However, as they've gotten older, they've realized that relying on external validation and acceptance is not sustainable.
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