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Surviving Dirty John w/ Debra Newell Pt. 2

Navigating Narcissism with Dr. Ramani

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Don't Worry About Your Kids

"I was really willing to die. You get to a point where you're in hiding and you're just, you can't do it any longer than me," she says. "Even if he's arrested, I will always be in fear because of what he had done to those private investigators that he had had death threats on"

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