When he was in grad school, his wife got diagnosed with breast cancer. She had three or four surgeries, then the chemo, and then the recovery from all that took about two years. So we were staying at home all the time, watching TV,. And just wasn't a lot of activity. At one point, I was like, you know, we need to break this cycle. We bought a small 16 foot camper. It was an air stream base camp. Even if we just walk around a little bit Or there was a campground right there in Virginia.