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Is APL the Source?
List definitely was pretty early to getting a lot of things like map and I think I think it got reduced from APL but filter definitely got on its own. The thing that we're approaching is not necessarily APL like APL is part of the approach. So where Iverson came from was this linear algebra and you can see that there's all sorts of, I mean he directly tells you where things come from in linear algebra so we have the idea that like the outer product is, is a specialization of the inner product,.