I was looking at some of what these people were saying, you know, especially as you say, there's been kind of this turn against the venture capitalist it's been a very revealing moment for them. I think most people their needs are really material and also social and political and Silicon Valley has just been unable to solve those things from a purely kind of technological and economic approach. If people don't have health care, you can't really invent your way out of that. Which is why also sort of relatedly I find it kind of offensive or obscene that we see these life extension startups struggling to get everyday healthcare.

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