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Cleaning Up vs Still TBD - Ep129: Matt Ferrell

Cleaning Up: Leadership in an Age of Climate Change

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Optimistic or Pessimistic?

I was surprised at how many banks don't seem to get it. There's so many distortions here. Somebody will build a really, really nice kitchen and they'll be like, oh, no, that's a cost. And then you said, well, why don't you spend $50,000, $100,000 on really making the most extraordinary energy efficient. You're not going to have utility bills forever. I am optimistic about where things are having. I feel like I'm in the minority though. What about you? So I'm mainly optimistic but nuanced in the sense that climate change is happening. We are seeing bad effects."

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