The real peak of the low carb LDL cholesterol denialism quackery broke during COVID. The Flat Earth conference, we could survey... Does it have a conference? Yeah. How often every year? I guess it's I hope. We go just for fun. It's in Vegas. They're living in mom and dad's basement. And when you think about them like that, it's kind of sad. You just realized that there are all people who just want to lean in there leaning in there trying to disprove their own hypothesis. So they disprove theirself by saying this or that but then just start explaining it through. That's another quackery. A case study

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