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adam conovert is on tour doing stand up across the country right now. Steve brus is a paleontologist and evolutionary biologist at the university of edinburgh. He wrote a new book called the rise and fall of the dinosaurs, a new history from the shadow of the dino source. Adam: How did mammals make us so incredibly cessful that we were able to take over the earth? And furthermore, why were they the animals that became sentient in the first place?

In times of turmoil, it can be useful to take a longer view of history. Like, a LOT longer. Paleontologist and author of “The Rise and Reign of the Mammals” Stephen Brusatte joins Adam to explain how mammals took over the Earth hundreds of millions of years ago, and why we survived and achieve sentience when dinosaurs died out. Stephen goes on to discuss why taking a deep look at our history can help prepare us for the crises of the near future. You can purchase Stephen’s book at http://factuallypod.com/books Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.