I guess this comes back to the idea of whether any number exists, right? And sometimes, which is a whole new philosophical debate. There's all these different ways about thinking about whether a number exists. But I think it's true that certain numbers, there is sort of maybe not Graham's number,. Because we've thought about Graham's number, it's been conceived of. If you think of the numbers that are just in and aroundGraham's number, that are maybe just out there, you know, it's just somewhere around it doesn't matter, right? No one's ever going to think of that number. It's just some kind of silly trick with sort of numerology a

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