Is Family C Family Control Really a Growth Company?

Some companies, i think, that are positioning themselves to the investors as being very growth oriented and stuff like that. Some of these insurers, uh, that are small, in family controlled, have low p aren't writing a lowt of premiums and are investing in very low yeelding bonds. The risk is that they might continue to be a public company for decades? And you can just see some things probably about them too.