Jim Bianco: I'm starting to put some pieces together here. Ben Hunt was saying, look, banks are important as a facilitator of credit in the United States. And no one wants to lose credit because if we lose credit, we lose basically the last 100 years of civilization. Here on the other side is Arthur Hayes and biology; they're thinking about where to store value. They're looking at treasuries and they're looking at the Fed balance sheet and they're saying, no way treasuries are safe. You don't want to go there because the whole financial system operates on confidence.

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