"I think the reason it's not natural to do that for a lot of people is we were raised in a, in a society where childhood with like the playful and gameful aspects of it," he says. "So you probably can't act literally like a child, but you can still bring that playful, gameful mindset towards your life activities" He adds: "If that was the normal, well, then everyone would be a lot more interesting and fun to be around."

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