How Do You Hiring Product Managers?

Sasiptos has a great culture of getting helping each other out, instead of expecting that the next level up is going to tell you exactly what to do. We hire the very, very, very best people in support, usually u ad. And it's kind of an unfair advantage for us. They come into the role they've done two, three thousand customer calls already. So we're very transparent on our wickie and any meetings, and so that they're very exposed to the business.