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210: Why Bother? With Jennifer Louden

Pivot with Jenny Blake

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The Pandemic of Desire

Sally Kohn: How many of us have had days of complete stir craziness or why bother? We're like, oh my God, I'm in groundhog's day. But those days are done and it is time for me to carpet new way forward," she says. "The thing that I don't want us to do is come out of this if at all possible"

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