EP 79: Liz Zalman and Jerry Neumann (Co-authors, Founder VS Investor) debate startup experiences
The Logan Bartlett Show
Exploring CEO Transitions and the Role of Founders in Companies
Exploring whether founders should always be CEOs and the impact on the company when they leave. Discussing different types of CEOs and the idea of augmenting founder CEOs with additional support.
In this episode, Liz Zalman and Jerry Neumann (co-authors of Founder VS Investor) debate venture capital and startup dynamics. Liz is a 2x founder who’s raised over $100 million, and Jerry has over 25 years of experience as a venture capitalist with successful bets on companies like Datadog and The Trade Desk.
The authors banter on topics from fundraising, board meetings, the best role of VCs, and much more.
(0:00) Intro
(2:01) Founder vs Investor
(9:04) Two constituents that a VC is serving
(14:19) Structure of new book
(16:14) Balance between numbers and schmoozing
(21:11) Liz’s absolutes of fundraising
(28:31) Beyond the natural absorption of the market
(36:21) What is the purpose of a board?
(43:27) VCs as an asset class
(47:54) Feeling like a babysitter in board meetings
(59:34) Would you have bootstrapped it in retrospect?
(1:05:47) Should founders always remain CEOs?
(1:13:01) Absolutes of fundraising disagreements
(1:20:51) Talking to associates
(1:26:33) Capital as an effective means of scaling
(1:29:23) Sandy Lerner, founder of Cisco
(1:37:06) Did Logan learn anything from the founder's perspective?
Mixed and edited: Justin Hrabovsky
Produced: Rashad Assir
Executive Producer: Josh Machiz
Music: Griff Lawson
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Logan Bartlett is a Software Investor at Redpoint Ventures - a Silicon Valley-based VC with $6B AUM and investments in Snowflake, DraftKings, Twilio, and Netflix. In each episode of The Logan Bartlett Show, we sit down with the people behind today’s most important startups and extract the tactics, lessons, and frameworks they’ve learned the hard way. Conversations span hiring to GTM, product, growth, fundraising and everything in between - collectively forming the ultimate playbook to make you a better CEO, investor or board member.
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