"It was great to hang out with the B-Ligs. There's only a handful of times, it seems like, when Mike and I get a chance to actually be in the same room together." "My oldest daughter, Emma, was inspired by your oldest, who I didn't know that Toby was such a game stats nerd," he says. This episode of the Bookworm Podcast is brought to you by Headspace. Try all of Headspace free for 30 days by going to headspace slash Bookworm.