If all we're doing is debating whether your first reaction is right or wrong, that's so surface. And it's more interesting to me in those conversations, if I'm the receiver is now that you know the trade off I made, would you make the same one? Exactly. So if you know that I was preferencing, finishing the conversation. So we had an outcome over spaciousness and inclusion. Would you make that trade off in this moment for this thing? Yeah, exactly. Like, there's a thing in there very much about like having an ability when you're getting the feedback to say, here's what I was doing. Now tell me what you think about it

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