Win-Win US–South Africa Partnerships Amid Political Risk

Nathan asks about US partnership strategies; Piet outlines subnational differentiation, trade levers, and avoiding the Zimbabwe collapse model.

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Today, Nathan Halberstadt sits down with Piet le Roux, CEO of Sakeliga, to discuss the current state of South Africa's economy and business culture, "state-proofing" to mitigate harm during state-failure or collapse, and future litigation strategies to combat DEI.

Piet le Roux is the Chief Executive Officer of Sakeliga in South Africa. Le Roux has over 15 years experience in economic policy analysis and advisory to large institutions. He previously served as the Academic Director at Akademia university.

Learn more about Piet le Roux's work:

https://x.com/pietleroux

https://www.sakeliga.org.za/about

Timestamps:

00:00 - Opening Highlight

04:48 - Historical overview of South Africa's settlement and demographic groups

06:57 - Discussion of apartheid and transition to ANC rule

10:00 - Explanation of "State proofing"

14:57 - South Africa's infrastructure collapse and de-industrialization

24:20 - Land expropriation without compensation

26:38 - DEI Requirements & Licensing in South Africa

32:49 - Analysis of migration patterns and South Africa's role in African migration