If you want to see the web site that i'm reviewing, go to building a story brand dot com. Type in the episode that you're listening to, and you can get a screen cast on me reviewing the web side. Vertas counselling is a counselling centre. There are many things, first of all, that i like about the sweb side. I mean, there is not a lot of text. It's easy to read, easy to understand. Yours says, find help, find hope. This is a problem. And the the problem is it's too vague. You might sell it, say help and hope, but help and hope with what? With carpet cleaning,