The four Vedas are the basis of Pranathana, the Heart of Mahindoism. Even if you reject the Vedas, you are still building your religion upon the Vedas in that sense. So at the root of this Indic civilization, and again I will quote Bernarda, today he was saying that many years ago, when I started talking about the importance of consciousness, people said, you are plagiarizing the Upanishads. And I wasn't because I had never read them, so I thought I should read them, this was like decades ago. Inausently I was doing it, but I was saying something that the ancient Hindus in the Indus Valley