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#309: The Fourth Turning | Tony Arterburn

Macroaggressions

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What's the Move?

"I think it looks like moves are being made to exclude America from some of these decisions that we had always been involved in," he says. "We're going to have a lot of change. But again, I think there's going to be opportunity in the chaos to really grow." 'If you think that the future is going to be like the past, you've already lost,' host adds.

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